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The men of that age possessed also another advantage which helped not a little to facilitate legislation. note
MegillusWhat was that?
AthenianTheir legislators, in their efforts to establish equality of property, were free from that worst of accusations which is commonly incurred in States with laws of a different kind, whenever anyone seeks to disturb the occupation of land, or to propose the abolition of debts, since he perceives that without these measures equality could never be fully secured. In such cases, if the lawgiver attempts to disturb any of these things,
684eeveryone confronts him with the cry, “Hands off,” and they curse him for introducing redistributions of land and remissions of debts, with the result that every man is rendered powerless. But the Dorians had this further advantage, that they were free from all dread of giving offence, so that they could divide up their land without dispute; and they had no large debts of old standing. noteMegillusTrue
AthenianHow was it then, my good sirs, that their settlement and legislation turned out so badly?
685aMegillusWhat do you mean? What fault have you to find with it?
AthenianThis, that whereas there were three States settled, two of the three note speedily wrecked their constitution and their laws, and one only remained stable—and that was your State, Megillus.
MegillusThe question is no easy one.
AthenianYet surely in our consideration and enquiry into this subject, indulging in an old man's sober play with laws, we ought to proceed on our journey
685bpainlessly, as we said note when we first started out.MegillusCertainly, we must do as you say.
AthenianWell, what laws would offer a better subject for investigation than the laws by which those States were regulated? Or what larger or more famous States are there about whose settling we might enquire?
MegillusIt would be hard to mention better instances than these.
AthenianIt is fairly evident that the men of that age intended this organization of theirs to serve as an adequate protection
685cnot only for theCertainly.
AthenianIs it not also probable that they would suppose this to be a stable arrangement, and likely to continue quite a long time,
686asince they had shared together many toils and dangers, and were marshalled under leaders of a single family (their princes being brothers), and since, moreover, they had consulted a number of diviners and, amongst others, the Delphian Apollo?MegillusThat is certainly probable.
AthenianBut it seems that these great expectations speedily vanished, except only, as we said, in regard to that small fraction, your State of
It certainly would.
AthenianHow then, and by what means, was it destroyed? Is it not worth while to enquire by what stroke of fortune so grand a confederacy was wrecked?
MegillusYes for, if one passed over these examples,
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